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Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3169	Posted - 2015.09.02 19:18:51 - [1] - Quote The competent part of Forsaken Asylum that fell off.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3597	Posted - 2015.11.08 02:48:37 - [2] - Quote Khromius is probably the most excessively professional mercenary there is. To a point where it's kind of barf inducing, nobody should take their video game profession as seriously as he does. If he refuses to even listen to you then there's probably a good reason and I'd assume that reason is that you're not actually a serious potential client and he knows it.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3897	Posted - 2016.01.02 17:46:43 - [3] - Quote (Vendetta helped)
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3900	Posted - 2016.01.03 04:01:56 - [4] - Quote WTS POCO empire 400bn
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3902	Posted - 2016.01.03 22:31:33 - [5] - Quote Unless of course it's logitech blasters. Shooting those guys on the undock is basically your only option since they're never anywhere else.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4420	Posted - 2016.09.03 22:02:43 - [6] - Quote It is a highly astute observation that someone is not going to be capable of defending something against an opponent that outnumbers them by a massive margin. This is neither unexpected, nor an issue specific to highsec.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4541	Posted - 2016.11.07 16:01:17 - [7] - Quote Retards are frankly the best people to kill.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4546	Posted - 2016.11.07 21:21:42 - [8] - Quote Yes hire that one alliance which is hemorrhaging corps right now, they're totally healthy and will be super effective!
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4577	Posted - 2016.11.18 03:01:11 - [9] - Quote Balancing the satisfaction of a clients with conflicting interests when one is paying you dramatically more than the other is a fairly predictable situation. The guy paying you less gets it in the neck. Could this have been handled better? Yes, absolutely. Is it unreasonable or inappropriate for VMG to use their position to provide maximum satisfaction to the more lucrative client? Not at all, in fact they'd be stupid if they didn't. They probably should have been smarter about it though. (but what can you expect, it's Khromius after all)
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4577	Posted - 2016.11.18 03:54:06 - [10] - Quote Like I said, the situation itself is pretty normal, it was just handled unusually badly.

Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4580	Posted - 2016.11.18 10:02:29 - [11] - Quote Secca Trild wrote: Is it normal to take a contract and then immediately go back on it now? As far as I was aware those kind of actions used to get you removed from the merc contracts channel as untrustworthy or scamming. Infact most merc groups would specifically state they did not take counter contracts. Is everyone doing this now? Firstly it wasn't immediate, it was two weeks (half way) in to the first period of the contract. Secondly like I said, not exactly what would have been normal would have been for them so tell their client that they were discontinuing their service due to conflicts of interest and then immediately declare war on him at the end of the first period of the contract. You can't rationally claim it was a scam because not only was the fee refunded, but the intent when the defensive contract was arranged doesn't appear to have been to defraud the client. But otherwise, yes, discontinuing service in favor of another client is when there's a huge difference between what the clients are paying is entirely usual. The only unusual part is ending the contract mid-period and still actually giving a full refund. People pay an assload for citadel takedowns because of how tedious and difficult it is, so when arranging a defensive contract both the mercenary and the client need to consider whether or not the monthly fee is sufficient to dissuade the merc from dropping it on a whim the first time someone shows up and offers them tens of billions to kill your fortizar.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4588	Posted - 2016.11.19 08:48:24 - [12] - Quote Secca Trild wrote: Ok thanks for the explanation. Can you answer two more questions for me? 1. Isn't the whole point of the merc accepting the contract the definition of the merc accepting the price of their business? If not, was the client told that it would be open to paid contracts to VMG against it and it would cost X extra amount to make them safe from that? Would that not be the correct and honest way to operate? If not, why would the client not be given a chance to pay off the mercs after a contract had been issued along with proof? 2. The most important question. Doesn't this just mean that you can create a contract purposely with a low price, get the client to easily accept and change their timers to your primetime and off the clients primetime, and then 'claim' someone contracted you and shoot it with. Even if you did fully refund the original low cost, if this is premeditated, it is by definition scamming and there is no way to diffientuate between a legit contract and a scam. Firstly mercs don't normally reveal their client, and secondly even ingame mails and isk transfers can be easily faked. That would be my biggest concern. Now that its happened once, you cannot say with certainly that they are legit anymore, which is a shame because that used to be a core principal for proper HS mercs. They could have as easily waited until the end of the first month and not renewed the contract and then taken the one to kill it and they would have gotten all the benefit and none of the bad press. Baffles me why they would ruin their rep for no reason 1. Yes, absolutely mercenaries will try to set price points where they're unlikely to ever be given an offer that is sufficient to make it worth ditching the retainer contract. The problem with citadels is that people generally don't want to pay 5 billion isk a month for a defensive contract that they might not actually need, but people are willing to pay tens of billions to destroy a citadel. Paying people for structure defense in general is like paying someone for private security services who also happens to bust kneecaps for the mob. It's probably not a good idea to pay them minimum wage for it. 2. This is fairly unlikely to happen since it's the client that approaches the mercenary, not the other way around and because shooting citadels is an utter ****-show and not something you're likely to do unless you have an actual reason for it. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? No, not really. VMG probably don't give much of a damn about someone sperging out about whatever exactly happened here because it won't actually affect their reputation. Anyone who happens to drop a contract with them over it will rapidly find their structures being shot at by VMG themselves and with few options for defense.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4590	Posted - 2016.11.19 10:30:01 - [13] - Quote All these NPC corp characters, such authority, very convincing. Wow.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4594	Posted - 2016.11.19 17:00:41 - [14] - Quote I guess the jig is up, you've discovered the terrible secret that Natural CloneKiller is my alt. And after I went through all that effort of getting someone to pretend to be him in Discord during the wardec round table. Also Ralph is me too.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4594	Posted - 2016.11.19 17:29:23 - [15] - Quote But seriously, there's no way we're the same person. Only 94% efficient? I'd biomass tbh.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4622	Posted - 2016.11.29 05:28:13 - [16] - Quote People need to stop resisting and just be absorbed into VMG so we can all sit down and concoct some massive conspiracy against the general public wherein all conflict is artificially generated by secret VMG subsidiaries, which are then handily defeated by VMG in an extremely dramatic staged fight in a highly visible location. All real attempts at competition would obviously just be stamped out and/or absorbed as soon as they're detected. This is my dream.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4743	Posted - 2017.01.24 12:54:16 - [17] - Quote Because hopping the logistics into corp is well known to both make a huge tactical difference and to also add e-bushido points since that is totally a thing that exists.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4755	Posted - 2017.01.27 10:53:38 - [18] - Quote Personally I think smack talk is a better endorsement than actual client testimony. Nothing says "Hire these guys" like pages and pages of typo-encrusted nonsense from someone who is clearly anally devastated about something.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4783	Posted - 2017.02.04 04:14:41 - [19] - Quote Breaking news, Khromius called Holeysheet a "Worthy foe" and that he wants more players like him in the game.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4784	Posted - 2017.02.04 05:11:24 - [20] - Quote It really happened.

Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4784	Posted - 2017.02.04 15:51:49 - [21] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Breaking news, Khromius called Holeysheet a "Worthy foe" and that he wants more players like him in the game. o.O Screenshot or it never happened Unfortunately it was in audio.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4784	Posted - 2017.02.05 00:07:02 - [22] - Quote He's a professional trash-talking station barnacle. Everyone leaps at the chance to make him explode.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4788	Posted - 2017.02.05 22:39:10 - [23] - Quote For example, getting podded because he was too busy typing incoherent nonsense into local to warp off.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4791	Posted - 2017.02.06 12:28:20 - [24] - Quote Kai86 for ultimate CSM troll candidate.

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